second recall notice for "accelerator pedal" for my car. i guess the first time was just for fun.
this new recall modifies the accelerator pedal and floor surface as well as provide a "newly designed override system onto your vehicle to provide an extra measure of confidence. this system will cut enigne power in case of simultaneous application of both accelerator and brake pedals at certain speeds and driving conditions"
this new recall modifies the accelerator pedal and floor surface as well as provide a "newly designed override system onto your vehicle to provide an extra measure of confidence. this system will cut enigne power in case of simultaneous application of both accelerator and brake pedals at certain speeds and driving conditions"
btw, im not retarded... what's wrong with the people having accidents. have they never heard of neutral?
What if that is just a cover for the real reason of the recall, the navigation systems having a tendency to become self aware?
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| Originally posted by owen on March 6, 2010 7:50 PM PST btw, im not retarded... what's wrong with the people having accidents. have they never heard of neutral? |
It's not helping. Shifting to reverse doesn't help, either.
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Originally posted by Osyris_Glitch on March 7, 2010 12:15 PM PST
It's not helping. Shifting to reverse doesn't help, either. |
um turn off your car? as far as i know shifting to neutral helps. i haven't read otherwise.
Priuses don't have neutrals, and turning the ignition off can lock the wheel.
There have only been 20 deaths though. Out of how many millions of cars that have been recalled? So it's not like there's a fleet of cars out there that can't be stopped. My guess is that most people do have the sense to shift into neutral or do something to stop their car if this happens to them in a situation that affords them enough time to do that. But the majority of collisions caused by these defects don't fit those parameters. We're talking about somebody accelerating at a stoplight, and then rear ending somebody because the car kept accelerating when they took their foot off the gas. Usually not enough time to react in that kind of situation. Most people's first reaction is to hit the brake. And while that will slow the car down and eventually stop it, it takes way longer than it would if there was a brake override in place... which luckily seems to be as simple as a software update. Most new cars have these override systems in place already because it's been mandatory in the EU for a while now. Why Toyota selectively does it there and not here is bizarre, considering it doesn't seem like a mechanical system at all if they can just re-flash the computers with new code.
There have only been 20 deaths though. Out of how many millions of cars that have been recalled? So it's not like there's a fleet of cars out there that can't be stopped. My guess is that most people do have the sense to shift into neutral or do something to stop their car if this happens to them in a situation that affords them enough time to do that. But the majority of collisions caused by these defects don't fit those parameters. We're talking about somebody accelerating at a stoplight, and then rear ending somebody because the car kept accelerating when they took their foot off the gas. Usually not enough time to react in that kind of situation. Most people's first reaction is to hit the brake. And while that will slow the car down and eventually stop it, it takes way longer than it would if there was a brake override in place... which luckily seems to be as simple as a software update. Most new cars have these override systems in place already because it's been mandatory in the EU for a while now. Why Toyota selectively does it there and not here is bizarre, considering it doesn't seem like a mechanical system at all if they can just re-flash the computers with new code.
okay this is interesting:
So people in priuses are really screwed.
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| Some of you say to turn off the vehicle, but did you know that Toyotas have a fail-safe system that continues to supply power to the engine and transmission if you set the key to ACC and are still moving? I tried it myself. The gauges turn off, but the engine is still running. I could even accelerate and decelerate at whim, though without gauges, I would have no idea how fast I were moving. |
So people in priuses are really screwed.





